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This is the NN/G UX podcast.
I'm Laura Klein. Sarah Doody is a UX researcher and product designer with 22 years of experience. She began her career working at large corporations and startups before launching her own product design consultancy in 2012. Today, she's the founder and CEO of Career Strategy Lab,
a career and job search incubator that helps UX and product professionals get hired without applying to hundreds of jobs. On average, her clients increase their salaries by five figures. She's also the host of the Career Strategy podcast. In this episode, I talk with
Sarah about all things job searching. We discuss the emotional toll a long search can take and ways to improve your chances at landing a job and protect your mental health while you're applying.
If you're on the hunt for a new job, I encourage you to check out the NN/G training courses. We can get you certified in a useful new skill or teach you what you need to know to move up the career ladder. And with that, let's talk to Sarah Doody. Welcome, Sarah. Sarah Doody,
thank you so much for joining me here today. I'm excited to chat with you, Laura. Good to see you.
All right. We're gonna we're going to talk a little bit about, um, hiring and job searching specifically, which I think is a a topic that is on a lot of people's minds at the moment.
Um, tell me, you you you talk to folks more than I do. Uh, you get out of the house. Um, tell me tell me about what you're hearing from folks who are who are searching for jobs. I uh I I do not hear great things at the moment. Yeah, I'm not going to sugarcoat it and say that it's
easy. [laughter] Let's get that out of the way, right? Um, I think that it is tough out there, right? For so many reasons from the economy to the amount of candidates that there are um and one of the things that I have found is like there's an and at the end of this statement right
it's difficult and candidates do things that make it more difficult than it needs to be and what I'm really focused on is helping them see that because you've you've probably worked with a lot of founders yourself and I see so many parallels between founders and candidates. They're just too
close to it, right? And so they need Fascinating. Yeah. They need to [laughter] be pulled out. Yeah.
Yeah. Tell tell me about that. That's that's really interesting. I'd never thought about them that way. I mean, I I spent a lot of my time when I lived in New York City working with startups and you know, it was that familiar situation in that first one or two meetings. the founder comes to
